Students of Aryamehr University, now Sharif, watching soccer game, circa 1968. Among them are some of this blogger’s (Nader Uskowi) old friends and Alborz classmates. Photo: old-pic.blogspot.com
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I remember "The product of Shah" students, we always thought of them as very spoilt brats, similar to what the UAE students are today. while we had pennies to spend those brats always has hundreds of pounds.
PS the worst of the lot were the female students, what arrogance
I think, the man wanted to share his nostalgia with us. I appreciated it anyway. anoan, the fact that we are not a Monarchy anymore is a wonderful thing, and may it never ever come upon us again.
The kids in the picture were among the sharpest students in Iran, many of them on scholarship, and still many more joining the anti-shah movements of the 1970's. It's shameful, and probably out of ignorance, calling them shah's spoil brats. It's like calling today's Sharif students mullahs' brats.
By the way, if you guys are or were against the monarchy, as you seem to claim, you must be against velayat faghih, one of the worst types of systems of one-person for-life rule.
Uskowi, Monarchy had its chances, with the constitutional revolution,and a new dynasty, then the Mossadegh tragedy, and etc, etc...but everytime Iran was sold out. Monarchy, should be abolished as tool of the past... the furure is republic.
Like it or not, almost 65 to 70% agree with the system in Iran, regardless of whatever we might think.
We could not live with it, so we left, but have the courtesy and respect those who want it.
You and I are not the lawyers and elected speakers of Iranians and "arrogance" is what some of us think and claim to speak for Iranians.
I agree with you that future is republic, and monarchy should be considered as tool of the past. But monarchy is not just a name, but a concept, that of the rule of one person for life, no matter how good or bad that person is. You would undermine your own argument against the monarchy if you do not take same position on velayat faghih, it's the same concept, with as many problems as a traditional monarchy.
Respecting the people of Iran should not mean agreeing with the present government, no matter if you live inside the country or abroad. In the country you now reside, there were a time that a majority might have favored nazism. All Germans, wether living in Hamburg or in New York at the time, needed to oppose Hitler. This was not disrespecting that generation of Germans, but it was in defense of democratic values. I do not buy the argument that opposing the current government in Iran is insulting the Iranian people, many inside the country do and at the end of the day it is a duty to oppose a government if you believe is acting against the best interests of its own people and its national interests.
Uskowi, comparing Iran with that of Nazi Germany in justifying opposition is yet another form of having been collectively guided per Mass media into considering it as harmless and normal and worse than that.... correct. I see I have to succomb here too.
PS/The democracy you talk about stopped existing mid 80.s and changed structure in the 90.s into a tool of suppression by the strong.
Like it or not the only real democracy in this world is "India"
since you have your agenda and I mine...I close my case.
I was not comparing Iran with Nazi Germany. I was answering your concern that opposition to the present government in Iran would be an insult to the huge majority of the people, whom you believe support the government. If this is a correct theory, then I was arguing that the Germans living abroad could not criticize Hitler's government because a huge majority of Germans might have thought to support their government.
Of course my last sentence should read: ... because a huge majority of Germans might have been thought to support their government. (the word been was missing!)
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I remember "The product of Shah" students, we always thought of them as very spoilt brats, similar to what the UAE students are today. while we had pennies to spend those brats always has hundreds of pounds.
PS the worst of the lot were the female students, what arrogance
I think, the man wanted to share his nostalgia with us. I appreciated it anyway.
anoan, the fact that we are not a Monarchy anymore is a wonderful thing, and may it never ever come upon us again.
But remembering the past, is a wonderful thing
Thank you
Nahid /Hamburg
Anon 4:32 AM,
The kids in the picture were among the sharpest students in Iran, many of them on scholarship, and still many more joining the anti-shah movements of the 1970's. It's shameful, and probably out of ignorance, calling them shah's spoil brats. It's like calling today's Sharif students mullahs' brats.
By the way, if you guys are or were against the monarchy, as you seem to claim, you must be against velayat faghih, one of the worst types of systems of one-person for-life rule.
Uskowi,
Monarchy had its chances, with the constitutional revolution,and a new dynasty, then the Mossadegh tragedy, and etc, etc...but everytime Iran was sold out.
Monarchy, should be abolished as tool of the past... the furure is republic.
Like it or not, almost 65 to 70% agree with the system in Iran, regardless of whatever we might think.
We could not live with it, so we left, but have the courtesy and respect those who want it.
You and I are not the lawyers and elected speakers of Iranians and "arrogance" is what some of us think and claim to speak for Iranians.
Nahid /Hamburg
Nahid/Hamburg,
I agree with you that future is republic, and monarchy should be considered as tool of the past. But monarchy is not just a name, but a concept, that of the rule of one person for life, no matter how good or bad that person is. You would undermine your own argument against the monarchy if you do not take same position on velayat faghih, it's the same concept, with as many problems as a traditional monarchy.
Respecting the people of Iran should not mean agreeing with the present government, no matter if you live inside the country or abroad. In the country you now reside, there were a time that a majority might have favored nazism. All Germans, wether living in Hamburg or in New York at the time, needed to oppose Hitler. This was not disrespecting that generation of Germans, but it was in defense of democratic values. I do not buy the argument that opposing the current government in Iran is insulting the Iranian people, many inside the country do and at the end of the day it is a duty to oppose a government if you believe is acting against the best interests of its own people and its national interests.
Uskowi,
comparing Iran with that of Nazi Germany in justifying opposition is yet another form of having been collectively guided per Mass media into considering it as harmless and normal and worse than that.... correct.
I see I have to succomb here too.
PS/The democracy you talk about stopped existing mid 80.s and changed structure in the 90.s into a tool of suppression by the strong.
Like it or not the only real democracy in this world is "India"
since you have your agenda and I mine...I close my case.
Nahid /Hamburg
Nahid/Hamburg,
I was not comparing Iran with Nazi Germany. I was answering your concern that opposition to the present government in Iran would be an insult to the huge majority of the people, whom you believe support the government. If this is a correct theory, then I was arguing that the Germans living abroad could not criticize Hitler's government because a huge majority of Germans might have thought to support their government.
Of course my last sentence should read: ... because a huge majority of Germans might have been thought to support their government. (the word been was missing!)
Nader, I happened upon my old high school yearbook from Tehran, online as an ebook. It's from 1976. I attended Community School.
The finding amazed me. Naturally, I became very nostalgic, as I'm sure the photo on this blog post generated similar feelings for you.
Thanks, Mark. And I never thought the post would generate so much discussion!
very nice post!
I recently found a picture of
Ahmadinejad in a soccer team from 1976:
Thanks, Paul. I wish he would have chosen soccer as his profession.
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