These are copies of a 1980s-vintage, German-built wing-in-ground-effect (WIG) craft. With their large, angular tail units and broad ground-effect wing, they certainly aren't "stealthy." Moreover, the high-mounted engine and its large propellor will be clearly visible both on radar and on thermal imagers. I'd hate to be the guy who tries to "fly" one of these contraptions in combat.
last @anon the boat flies in very low attitude, some few meters over the see-ground, hard for radar to find it. I doubt if Radar can distinguish it from a conventional boat.
These flying boats are not meant for "combat" but for recce and search and rescue. They are ideal for the Persian Gulf and Iran's large coastline, including the Caspian. Anyway, all kudos to Iran's domestic aircraft industry. WELL DONE.
The second @anon is correct. These flying boats have a valuable effects on warships because they fly on a low altitude over water in which they couldn't been visible to enemies' radars. so these vessels can carry air to surface missiles and attack enemies ships without being detected like russian monster "Lun-class ekranoplan".
actualy( believe 2) as called in april 2006 has been tested the guassar messile the reccord has conform this flying airplane as nassar the breigad general in 2006 said the speed in 360 kmph as far as my concern is vary effective in persian gulf area which the width is long is almost 220 km and width 51 km to lunch his messile at any ship possible plus to scort many other fast boat to combat area theirfor somany abtion having and combine together is make his enemy confused,iran know faces so powerful army that can not just close his eyes and build ship the one messile distroy completly and also learn the lesson in 1988 face up with usa warship to make them more defencive strick in many area is possible and cost them hunder times cheaper than us budget and life lost will be much less than usa the boat and this flying plane plus karrar uav and many more to come do not give any room to them enemy obtion for manuover as last week heard usa will supplied saudy areabia for 60 to 70 bilion doller that mean iran is doing far agresive then ever and much cheaper cost.
These are not even a military flying boats nor they can be used as such. Too small to carry any weapon, not enough room for a passenger in an rescue mission. Obviously those are just sport ultra light aircraft, and nothing more. But it must be a great joy to fly those birdies.
Agreed, these craft are too small and light to carry any weapons capable of large scale damage. But as a first proof of concept prototype for something larger and more capable down the line, not a bad start.
As an aside, The Ekranoplane concept has a lot going for it in the Persian Gulf. If you want to close in on an enemy ship fast to deliver a weapon load, you'll get to the missile firing point a LOT faster in the air, just above the water, than you will with a hull in the water. Seconds make a big difference in this kind of encounter. For the distances involved in the Persian Gulf it makes a lot of sense.
IMO these birds aren't meant for combat but for scouting long stretches of coast fast (360 kmph?) and cheap (thanks to WIG) for smugglers and (submersible) infiltration landing craft (SILC). -
You should never rubbish technology, remember the state of art Israeli warship a Hezbollah missile costing a tiny fraction disabled it. So what was all the expensive radar, sonic h/w doing. Do they actually work? Looks like it failed also during 9/11 where the trillion$ USAF failed even to react- LOL
Folks, I am laughing at all those who say these craft fly so low the Navy Radar cannot detect them. People, the Navy Ships have radar that can pick up a periscope sticking out of the water. i've seen beer cans detected by Navy Radar. All Navy ships have gatling guns that fire thousands of rounds per minute and are radar aimed. These toys wouldn't get within five miles of a U.S. Navy ship.
And by the way the Navy uses a similar craft for target practice but the craft flys faster and is stealthier. An advanced version of the FireBee Drone. Look it up.
stop speculating. These planes are there to fight smuggling. and not to fight America.. you stupid arses... a low kost almost all time ready to use and its duality makes it cost effective for aerial and maritime observations.
if a war breakes out though .. they can fly over US ships and spit on them ;)
I counted 12 of these birds in the clip. Say they will have 20 or so and Iran has approx. 2000km of coastline (incl.Caspian); at a speed of 100kmh (and range of 300-400km), every hour one will fly pass a given point on its coastline. If this can be reduced to half an hour (40 birds) this would suffice as a deterrent I guess.
However, this will make it more likely infiltrations will go by land and it'll take a lot of UAV's to counter this. -
There are plans to make the Iran-140 or An-140 into a marine patrol craft as well. So not able to land on water but to replace the Orions purchased from the US in the 70s.
The Bavar-2 have also been spotted by amateur satellite imagery watchers at: http://osgeoint.blogspot.com/2011/09/first-look-bavar-2-imagery-signatures.html
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These are copies of a 1980s-vintage, German-built wing-in-ground-effect (WIG) craft. With their large, angular tail units and broad ground-effect wing, they certainly aren't "stealthy." Moreover, the high-mounted engine and its large propellor will be clearly visible both on radar and on thermal imagers. I'd hate to be the guy who tries to "fly" one of these contraptions in combat.
last @anon
the boat flies in very low attitude,
some few meters over the see-ground, hard for radar to find it.
I doubt if Radar can distinguish it from a conventional boat.
whatever the case,
they are bloody cool
Dariush London
These flying boats are not meant for "combat" but for recce and search and rescue. They are ideal for the Persian Gulf and Iran's large coastline, including the Caspian. Anyway, all kudos to Iran's domestic aircraft industry. WELL DONE.
The second @anon is correct. These flying boats have a valuable effects on warships because they fly on a low altitude over water in which they couldn't been visible to enemies' radars. so these vessels can carry air to surface missiles and attack enemies ships without being detected like russian monster "Lun-class ekranoplan".
LOL... so pathetic and laughable. A CIWS would finish them off. Retarded mullahs.
actualy( believe 2) as called in april 2006 has been tested the guassar messile the reccord has conform this flying airplane as nassar the breigad general in 2006 said the speed in 360 kmph as far as my concern is vary effective in persian gulf area which the width is long is almost 220 km and width 51 km to lunch his messile at any ship possible plus to scort many other fast boat to combat area theirfor somany abtion having and combine together is make his enemy confused,iran know faces so powerful army that can not just close his eyes and build ship the one messile distroy completly and also learn the lesson in 1988 face up with usa warship to make them more defencive strick in many area is possible and cost them hunder times cheaper than us budget and life lost will be much less than usa the boat and this flying plane plus karrar uav and many more to come do not give any room to them enemy obtion for manuover as last week heard usa will supplied saudy areabia for 60 to 70 bilion doller that mean iran is doing far agresive then ever and much cheaper cost.
These are not even a military flying boats nor they can be used as such. Too small to carry any weapon, not enough room for a passenger in an rescue mission. Obviously those are just sport ultra light aircraft, and nothing more. But it must be a great joy to fly those birdies.
Agreed, these craft are too small and light to carry any weapons capable of large scale damage. But as a first proof of concept prototype for something larger and more capable down the line, not a bad start.
As an aside, The Ekranoplane concept has a lot going for it in the Persian Gulf. If you want to close in on an enemy ship fast to deliver a weapon load, you'll get to the missile firing point a LOT faster in the air, just above the water, than you will with a hull in the water. Seconds make a big difference in this kind of encounter. For the distances involved in the Persian Gulf it makes a lot of sense.
IMO these birds aren't meant for combat but for scouting long stretches of coast fast (360 kmph?) and cheap (thanks to WIG) for smugglers and (submersible) infiltration landing craft (SILC).
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You should never rubbish technology, remember the state of art Israeli warship a Hezbollah missile costing a tiny fraction disabled it. So what was all the expensive radar, sonic h/w doing. Do they actually work? Looks like it failed also during 9/11 where the trillion$ USAF failed even to react- LOL
Adapted from a 1973 Soviet design:
http://www.ekranoplan.flybb.ru/topic126.html
Folks, I am laughing at all those who say these craft fly so low the Navy Radar cannot detect them. People, the Navy Ships have radar that can pick up a periscope sticking out of the water. i've seen beer cans detected by Navy Radar. All Navy ships have gatling guns that fire thousands of rounds per minute and are radar aimed. These toys wouldn't get within five miles of a U.S. Navy ship.
And by the way the Navy uses a similar craft for target practice but the craft flys faster and is stealthier. An advanced version of the FireBee Drone. Look it up.
These toys are a joke.
stop speculating.
These planes are there to fight smuggling. and not to fight America..
you stupid arses...
a low kost almost all time ready to use and its duality makes it cost effective for aerial and maritime observations.
if a war breakes out though .. they can fly over US ships and spit on them ;)
Iran is said to have made a "special" pen... (for writting)
but
you can stick it up Americas eyes.
lets Bomb them for it.
fuc..ing press
fuck the mullahs and their appeasers in the west
to Winston "3nakh"
Your educations in the west seems to have failed to teach you democratic values, such as tollerance of other peoples opinions.
whatever the case, even this retarded opinion of yours shall be heard but ignored..
well said last anon
Dariush London
Well said London...
I counted 12 of these birds in the clip. Say they will have 20 or so and Iran has approx. 2000km of coastline (incl.Caspian); at a speed of 100kmh (and range of 300-400km), every hour one will fly pass a given point on its coastline. If this can be reduced to half an hour (40 birds) this would suffice as a deterrent I guess.
However, this will make it more likely infiltrations will go by land and it'll take a lot of UAV's to counter this.
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What's next? An AN-140 turned into a flying boat
There are plans to make the Iran-140 or An-140 into a marine patrol craft as well. So not able to land on water but to replace the Orions purchased from the US in the 70s.
The Bavar-2 have also been spotted by amateur satellite imagery watchers at: http://osgeoint.blogspot.com/2011/09/first-look-bavar-2-imagery-signatures.html
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